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kamasu (kamasu)
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Post Number: 6587
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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 10:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They were the same group, a mixed group: two girls and one guy. But I think some people have gotten the facts right.
I think I read the guy was the lead singer, but that can't be right. I think the lead was female with a husky voice.

On "You Are the Circus," during the fade, I think I heard the lead sing: "I'm through with your circus, now boy."

If that was a male singing, this is one that slipped by the radio programmers.
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Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo)
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The group had a female lead singer.

As the Sandpebbles, they had a pop/soul hit with "Love Power" in 1967 - the same song Luther Vandross used in his "Power Of Love/Love Power" hit medley in 1991.

Kevin Goins - KevGo
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 7:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always thought the lead on "Love Power" was a male. Is that not so?
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Mark Speck (mark_speck)
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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 7:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did too! It certainly sounds like a guy with a high voice.

Best,

Mark
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Mr Soul (mr_soul)
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It's long time since I've played "Love Power", however it would appear to be a lady by the name of Lonzine Wright lead with Andrea Bolden & Calvin White being the other members.
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splanky (splanky)
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Kev and Soul are right, the lead singer was a woman with a big hard gospel bred voice. I've always liked this group though I never knew a lot about them. Felix on wbgo plays several of their songs including their version of Never My Love which I like a lot because it adds gusto to what most singers only treated as a tender torch song (Marilyn McCoo, ie...) This was their biggest hit on the soul charts when I was coming up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RIAwW08FuLw&feature=related
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kamasu (kamasu)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 11:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone. I thought the lead singer was female. I think the writer of the liner notes to a Sandpebbles CD got his information wrong. He said Calvin White was the group's lead singer.

That CD also left out "You are the Circus" and the group's other Cotillion singles.
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Tony Russi (tony_russi)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I liked "Love Power" for the vocals, however, it always sounded liked an unfinished track to me.Something about the drums and the rythmn in general.
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Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 6:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Mr. Soul! I forgot which woman sang the lead and I checked my Sandpebbles collection - it was Lonzine (and she had some BIG pipes!)
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michael r. lee shue (mikey)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 9:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a Lonzine Cannon on Philips Records.Any connection?
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JSmith (jsmith)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Swamp Dogg (Jerry Williams) produced C & the Shells on their Cotillion tracks.
I'll ask him what he can remember about them.
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mike s (mike_s)
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I always thought the lead singer of the Sandpebbles,and then C and the Shells, was Calvin White. She had a solo album sometime in the early 80s I recall where she was called C M Lord.
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JSmith (jsmith)
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I have a CM Lord album -- a track off it was a top UK MS club play back in the day -- but I can't currently remember its title.
She had solo releases on Montage, Capitol & RCA, so must have had a decent solo career.
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JSmith (jsmith)
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the cover of her Capitol LP.
It isn't this one that I have.
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JSmith (jsmith)
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This is the album that I have (on vinyl) -- it appears it has been re-issued on CD 'due to demand'.
The popular track in the UK was "I'm So Happy That Love Has Found You".
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kamasu (kamasu)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 4:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike and JSmith, you guys are confusing me.

Who is CM Lord and what does she have to do with the Sandpebbles/C and the Shells?

Calvin White is/or was a male.

(Message edited by kamasu on December 10, 2008)
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JSmith (jsmith)
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Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 3:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..........Got a short reply from Swamp........
Lonzine did ninety five percent of the lead vocals. I wish I knew her whereabouts, I'd record her again.
If you send me some specific questions I can respond to you better.

So if anyone has pressing C & the Shells related questions (mainly in connection with their work for Cotillion), let me know & I will pass them along to Swamp.
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mike s (mike_s)
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Post Number: 1385
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Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 7:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kamasu...I must be the one who is confused!!
I remember buying the CM Lord album Flashback back in the day because I read somewhere that she was formerly with The Sandpebbles. I recall being disappointed with the album and in fact don't still have it. So maybe Ms Lord has nothing to do at all with the group...and I accept Calvin White is/was a male!!

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